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AGW Revealed As a Gigantic Scientific Deception

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AGW Revealed As a Gigantic Scientific Deception

Postby Co2sceptic » Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:34 am

Global Warming I. Just Revealed As a Gigantic Scientific Deception

Summary: Again, IPCC- providers postulate anthropogenic global warming after a period of 11 years of cooling, which were, of course, global warming, nevertheless! The manmade CO2 myth goes back to Edmund de Rothschild (1987) - 28.53 min but was incarnated by Keith Briffa´s (1995) "detection" of a positive correlation between summer temperature and the width of treerings in Yamal, Siberia. The material had been provided by 2 Russians - on their mere words, although it might just as easily have been from St. Petersburg! Briffa got a professorship with this material, when with just 3 drill cores he claimed historical and scientific evidence of the medieval warm period to be nonsense! Since he corroborated with cores from 12 trees! In return, temperature was stated not to have been higher over the last 2000 years than about the year 2000! Michael Mann built a hockey stick curve on Briffas "finds"- the symbol of aggressive global warming. They would not surrender their material for contol testing through 10 years - until the Royal Society at the request of Steve McIntyre forced them to do so. Then the whole web of lies fell to the ground: Briffas own material showed that there is no positive correlation between the Siberian summer temperature and the widths of treerings. Furthermore, Briffa had selected the 12 trees that showed rising temperature / treering correlation, omitting a material from many more neighboring trees. After they were plotted in, there was no correlation whatsoever! The treering method itself is unsuitable as an indicator because of the local influence of moisture, nutrients, etc. Briffa and Mann led the IPCC, who never intervened. These 2 men are the instigators of the crazy political and corporate climate ideology that real climatologists cannot see a basis for. It's all a huge lie - built on anti-science. But it does not stop the IPCC or the New World Order politicians. Neither Mann! For they are living entirely on lies. Mann now has just made himself the laughing stock of hurricane experts with an amateur hurricane-hockey stick!


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Re: AGW Revealed As a Gigantic Scientific Deception

Postby questioner » Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:42 am

CO2scpetic,
We are treated to yet another blogger with a version of the same set of oneline arguments against global warming that have been rehashed over and over by other bloggers. There is nothing original here.
Everyone of them has been debunked over and over again, but they keep getting recycled by internet bloggers.

The real history of global warming which outlines the scientific discoveries that have contributed to the theory is given in detail on this web site from the American Institute of Physics, by a physicist and historian who has seriously studied this subject as a professional physics historian.

http://www.aip.org/history/climate/

It is clear that AGW is based on sound science and has a 150 year history as a physical theory.
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Re: AGW Revealed As a Gigantic Scientific Deception

Postby Co2sceptic » Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:26 pm

It's clear to whom?
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Re: AGW Revealed As a Gigantic Scientific Deception

Postby Mike Davis » Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:40 pm

Q:
That fantasy tale about man's ability to control climate has been proven wrong but some actually paid to read that piece of garbage. The IPCC is based on lies and the best path forward would be to disband it along with Retiring all the scientists who have promoted AGW. This charade has become the biggest fraud in history and will be a lesson in future science manuals as what not to do.
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Re: AGW Revealed As a Gigantic Scientific Deception

Postby questioner » Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:47 pm

Co2sceptic wrote:It's clear to whom?

Clear to the most of the world's scientists, and the overwhelming majority of active climate science researchers. This comes from the American Institute of Physics, the professional society in which most of the active researchers in Physics in the US are members.

In case you missed it because you were too busy, here is some proof about the support among scientists for AGW.

http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf
Results show that overall, 90% of participants
answered “risen” to question 1
and 82% answered yes to question 2. In
general, as the level of active research
and specialization in climate science
increases, so does agreement with the two
primary questions (Figure 1). In our survey,
the most specialized and knowledgeable
respondents (with regard to climate
change) are those who listed climate science
as their area of expertise and who
also have published more than 50% of
their recent peer-reviewed
papers on the
subject of climate change (79 individuals
in total). Of these specialists, 96.2%
(76 of 79) answered “risen” to question 1
and 97.4% (75 of 77) answered yes to question
2.
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Re: AGW Revealed As a Gigantic Scientific Deception

Postby Mike Davis » Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:42 pm

Q:
A recent study found that those with a degree were easier to con than those with less schooling because those with advanced schooling believe their "PEERS" are honorable. While those with less schooling look for the fraud committed by those with degrees.
I guess the group that replaces the AIP when they are disbanded as a political activist group will need to come up with a new name or wear the dishonor placed upon that origination by its current board. That goes for the other groups that support the AGW fraud. Judgment is near for the instigators and supporters of this fraud!
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Re: AGW Revealed As a Gigantic Scientific Deception

Postby questioner » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:47 am

Mike Davis wrote:Q:
A recent study found that those with a degree were easier to con than those with less schooling because those with advanced schooling believe their "PEERS" are honorable. While those with less schooling look for the fraud committed by those with degrees.
I guess the group that replaces the AIP when they are disbanded as a political activist group will need to come up with a new name or wear the dishonor placed upon that origination by its current board. That goes for the other groups that support the AGW fraud. Judgment is near for the instigators and supporters of this fraud!


It is clear that you have a vision. End times are coming. McIntyre and Watts are the prophets of your religion. Those with low IQ's shall be raised up and run the colleges and universities. The members of the American Institute of Physics will be forced to wear a yellow "F" when they go out in public, just like the Jews in Germany, who cheated the people out of their savings. The false Gods, Tyndall, Arrhenius, Callendar, Revelle, Schneider and Hansen will be destroyed, and their papers and articles will be removed from the internet and text books.

It is clear that you have a gripe against people who are educated as a result of your work history and cultural background.
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Re: AGW Revealed As a Gigantic Scientific Deception

Postby Mike Davis » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:52 pm

Q:
I have a life long gripe about people who perpetrate fraud. Whether they do that under the guise of religion or humanitarian quest. I have observed the greed of those people first hand and also observed the outcome of their efforts.
I accomplished something in my life that helped others. It bothers me to observe others fleecing people or promoting fear for personal gain. I do not care if it is receiving 5 cents by fraud it it equal to people like Al Gore who have raked in hundreds of millions through this scam and stand to receive more.
It has nothing to do with the amount of education the person receives because I also knew respectable well educated people and some of them were more susceptible to being taken by their peers whom they trusted. A degree does not equal brains and sometimes brains are a deterrent to a higher degree when blindly following the path of leaders is the required skill set for the field rather than innovation.
It is apparent that you posses the ability to follow with blind faith those who have the credentials making them above question.
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Re: AGW Revealed As a Gigantic Scientific Deception

Postby Co2sceptic » Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:56 pm

I make that game set and match.

Q may I ask you a Question?

Do you ever wonder if your wrong and we are right?
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Re: AGW Revealed As a Gigantic Scientific Deception

Postby questioner » Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:40 pm

Co2sceptic wrote:I make that game set and match.

Q may I ask you a Question?

Do you ever wonder if your wrong and we are right?


I do not. Especially when you argue that the idea of AGW is part of a giant conspiracy to commit fraud.
That is what you resort to, when all the pseudo scientific arguments that you give are knocked down.

You can't be a player and claim to be an umpire at the same time.
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