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How long will Europe remain blind?

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How long will Europe remain blind?

Postby Ryder » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:19 pm

This from the AP today:

LONDON (AP) - The only passenger rail link between Britain and the rest of Europe has been shut down indefinitely, Eurostar said Sunday, promising more travel misery for thousands of stranded passengers just before Christmas.
Services have been suspended since late Friday, when a series of glitches stranded five trains inside the Channel Tunnel and trapped more than 2,000 passengers for hours in stuffy and claustrophobic conditions. More than 55,000 passengers overall have been affected.
Some panicked passengers stayed underground for more than 15 hours without food or water, or any clear idea of what was going on - prompting outrage from travelers and a promise from Eurostar that no passenger train would enter the tunnel until the issue had been identified and fixed.
Eurostar runs services between England, France and Belgium. The company said Sunday it had traced the problem to "acute weather conditions in northern France," which has seen its worst winter weather in years.

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Lives are now being directly affected by COLD. tens of thousands of people, by just one event. I wonder how many stranded had been attending the Copenhagen push for global socialism? Notice how the global warming cover-up still pervades? Eurostar would not say that extreme cold cause the problem, but rather "acute weather conditions". The fear of warming must be preserved at all costs.

Amazing.
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Re: How long will Europe remain blind?

Postby questioner » Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:31 am

I think you are jumping to conclusions. The source of the problem which stopped the service is not really clear. What they believe happened at present is as followed.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... -trains.do

Eurostar today blamed the wrong type of “fluffy French snow” for the collapse of its services, sparking fury and derision from stranded passengers.
All trains were cancelled for the third day running after shields designed to prevent snow getting into the trains' electrical systems failed, cutting power and leaving 2,000 people trapped in the tunnel overnight on Friday.


There is no connection between the electrical system problems in the trains and global warming or cooling as you may prefer to believe. The just need to stop snow from getting into the train's electrical system. In fact an increase extreme precipitation events are an effect of global warming, due the the increase in ocean temperature driving an increase in water vapor in the atmosphere.
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Re: How long will Europe remain blind?

Postby Mike Davis » Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:43 am

Q:
What Extreme weather? The only place "Extreme Weather" exists in in the minds of those who want to frighten others and those who believe those fairy tales. When you do not design for possible natural events then it is necessary to blame nature for ones stupidity.
When Crocodiles are once again living in Hudson Bay then we can discuss your Global Warming. Until then we are experienceing natural climate variations that happen in cycles. All your wishing can not change that.
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Re: How long will Europe remain blind?

Postby Ryder » Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:34 pm

questioner wrote:I think you are jumping to conclusions. The source of the problem which stopped the service is not really clear. What they believe happened at present is as followed.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... -trains.do

Eurostar today blamed the wrong type of “fluffy French snow” for the collapse of its services, sparking fury and derision from stranded passengers.
All trains were cancelled for the third day running after shields designed to prevent snow getting into the trains' electrical systems failed, cutting power and leaving 2,000 people trapped in the tunnel overnight on Friday.


There is no connection between the electrical system problems in the trains and global warming or cooling as you may prefer to believe. The just need to stop snow from getting into the train's electrical system. In fact an increase extreme precipitation events are an effect of global warming, due the the increase in ocean temperature driving an increase in water vapor in the atmosphere.



I did not jump to conclusions, I just read an article... and noticed how the wording from Eurostar was careful to avoid any mention of cold in their initial analysis. "acute" as opposed to "unusual cold". They are drinking from the same kool-aid pitcher as you are.
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Re: How long will Europe remain blind?

Postby questioner » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:30 am

Ryder wrote:
questioner wrote:I think you are jumping to conclusions. The source of the problem which stopped the service is not really clear. What they believe happened at present is as followed.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... -trains.do

Eurostar today blamed the wrong type of “fluffy French snow” for the collapse of its services, sparking fury and derision from stranded passengers.
All trains were cancelled for the third day running after shields designed to prevent snow getting into the trains' electrical systems failed, cutting power and leaving 2,000 people trapped in the tunnel overnight on Friday.


There is no connection between the electrical system problems in the trains and global warming or cooling as you may prefer to believe. The just need to stop snow from getting into the train's electrical system. In fact an increase extreme precipitation events are an effect of global warming, due the the increase in ocean temperature driving an increase in water vapor in the atmosphere.



I did not jump to conclusions, I just read an article... and noticed how the wording from Eurostar was careful to avoid any mention of cold in their initial analysis. "acute" as opposed to "unusual cold". They are drinking from the same kool-aid pitcher as you are.


You are assuming that cold was actually the culprit. The Eurostar people say fine snow got into the electrical system due to failure of the shields. You are making an assumption that this is a cover up to avoid saying it is cooling. Why would Eurostar employees do that. It doesn't make sense. There is an element of paranoia in your assumption.
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Re: How long will Europe remain blind?

Postby Ryder » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:58 pm

Ryder wrote:
I did not jump to conclusions, I just read an article... and noticed how the wording from Eurostar was careful to avoid any mention of cold in their initial analysis. "acute" as opposed to "unusual cold". They are drinking from the same kool-aid pitcher as you are.

You are assuming that cold was actually the culprit. The Eurostar people say fine snow got into the electrical system due to failure of the shields. You are making an assumption that this is a cover up to avoid saying it is cooling. Why would Eurostar employees do that. It doesn't make sense. There is an element of paranoia in your assumption.



Incorrect. I am assuming that the specific article I am reading is accurate at the time it was written. Nothing more. That is a reasonable assumption.

And of course masking a cold earth makes sense. MANY people are part of the global warming religion, spanning all walks of life, social strata, income levels and any other metric you would wish to use. Words that are heretical to their belief system tend to become suppressed.

Have you never noticed how in the popular press, ice only melts in the arctic... it never forms?

Almost nobody in the popular press talks about a decade with no change in average global temperature (even though it is a key metric in one of the biggest stories ever covered in the history of mankind, if not THE biggest).

Merely making observations...
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Re: How long will Europe remain blind?

Postby Ryder » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:00 pm

Ryder wrote:
I did not jump to conclusions, I just read an article... and noticed how the wording from Eurostar was careful to avoid any mention of cold in their initial analysis. "acute" as opposed to "unusual cold". They are drinking from the same kool-aid pitcher as you are.

You are assuming that cold was actually the culprit. The Eurostar people say fine snow got into the electrical system due to failure of the shields. You are making an assumption that this is a cover up to avoid saying it is cooling. Why would Eurostar employees do that. It doesn't make sense. There is an element of paranoia in your assumption.



Incorrect. I am assuming that the specific article I am reading is accurate at the time it was written. Nothing more. That is a reasonable assumption.

And of course masking a cold earth makes sense. MANY people are part of the global warming religion, spanning all walks of life, social strata, income levels and any other metric you would wish to use. Words that are heretical to their belief system tend to become suppressed.

Almost nobody in the popular press talks about a decade with no change in average global temperature (even though it is a key metric in one of the biggest stories ever covered in the history of mankind, if not THE biggest).

Merely making observations...
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