Would the forum be more active without people like Q & G

[Co2sceptic]

With the forum being at an all time low, I'm not sure if it should remain.

Please give me some feedback on what would make it better, do we just scratch it or carry on but without AGW supporters?

[Ravenna]

A good question.

Your main forum board is too narrow.Just 4 categories and two of them were to debate two different people.Maybe add a couple more forum categories to make it inviting to the general public?

Questioner was never going to be rational and honest,with all that "goalpost" moving.It drives people away seeing all the dishonesty Questioner was showing.

AGW believers should be allowed to come here,but should be told to stop going all over the board and shifting their positions as they go.Try going with the discussion route and drop the debate because it is so polarizing.They should be Moderated more strongly.

Your forum software is so 1990's and unattractive too boot.Maybe it is time to consider changing software?

Your blog area is where your contribution appears best served,maybe concentrate on that more? That part you do very well in my opinion.

If you want a stronger reply,use the PM route and I will expand on this a lot more.

[Climate Realist]

I agree with Ravenna. Q did at least make me do some research (which actually strengthened my realist position- because on closer examination Q posted only misinformation and distortion). G however, clearly has a very superficial knowledge of anything to do with the subject and has not contributed anything of value and posts nothing except except insults, provocation and repetition.

I have now defected to Ravenna's forum, and with no sign of Phillip or Mike this forum has reached the end. All the spammers are further nails in the coffin lid.

[Co2sceptic]

I will take the hint and close the forum on the 1st August

Please remove whatever you need to remove.

More feedback on the site, are you guys saying the site is CRAP, in as much we are using PHP rather then worldpress? If so maybe the webmaster should end his PHP designs

[Ravenna]

More feedback on the site, are you guys saying the site is CRAP, in as much we are using PHP rather then worldpress? If so maybe the webmaster should end his PHP designs

I was here earlier as Sunsettommy,but came back as Ravenna.

No no, I am not against the designs that your webmaster made.They are good.

It is the CORE of the phpBB3 software that I do not like.Making postings with late 1990's software tools are not fun.Not when I have the far better myBB that I now use to make postings with at my forum.

The members at my forum have made it clear they do not want me to move to UBB.threads with version 8.0 coming onboard soon,at all.Despite that it will offer Blog,Gallery,Portal and the forum as an integrated set up.A very attractive set up that owners would love.

I used to run phpBB3 over a year ago as the site administrator,now I have gone to myBB and finally after working with phpBB2 and 3,SMF,wordpress forum and now myBB.It is heavenly.

Wordpress is overrated.

You could just transform your forum into an archive and stop all access to logging in.That way you keep everything else running the way it is.

Just a suggestion.

[Co2sceptic]

Hi

Just so we understand what has turned you guys off this forum and onto your forum please drop in a link. We are not convinced it's just down style, but maybe Q etc.

It's a bit of a gut wrench for us, as we thought twice about keeping a debate gong using AGW members, and as you can see in the other posting, we may give up the site as well as most people visit just once, sure we have a hard core of users (1500-2000) but we keep failing to increase members. It's very frustrating for us, as we have spend a few hours each day for the past couple of years putting this site together and have failed to get a regular readership up over 5000, being stuck at 2000 for as long as we have can only mean we have zero appeal to new members, but is it the site appearance or is Climate Realists just flat?

Let us know.

[Ravenna]

Just so we understand what has turned you guys off this forum and onto your forum please drop in a link. We are not convinced it's just down style, but maybe Q etc.

Climate realist is the only one who came to my forum from here.I have not done anything to cause that at all,he came on his own.

MY FORUM:

http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/index.php

My Blog:

http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/

I know it is a mess.Soon that will be fixed.

Both Gropes and Questioner knows about my forum,but they are terrified of joining.Now that you plan to shut down the forum,I will be astonished if Gropes comes over to my forum.He will simply vanish instead.

It's a bit of a gut wrench for us, as we thought twice about keeping a debate gong using AGW members, and as you can see in the other posting, we may give up the site as well as most people visit just once, sure we have a hard core of users (1500-2000) but we keep failing to increase members. It's very frustrating for us, as we have spend a few hours each day for the past couple of years putting this site together and have failed to get a regular readership up over 5000, being stuck at 2000 for as long as we have can only mean we have zero appeal to new members, but is it the site appearance or is Climate Realists just flat?

I understand the feeling here because for a while I was having them too.But now I realize that forums that exclusively cover climate topics is not a big draw,because most people rather go barbecuing or play computer games than to read a "boring" topic that we talk about.Lurking and reading a few postings in the few skeptical climate forums that exist on the internet,is about all most curious people will ever do.

My forum is over 3 years old and yet only 101 members is all I have.I try hard to keep out the spammers (I use the admin approval setting,for registration requests) It gets good traffic from guests during the day.That is why I have changed my mission from discussion only to a variety of educational child board (mini forums) along with the forum itself.To try reaching and informing guests who will lurk and lurk and never commit.I even created a Guest forum,to allow a drive by post.But alas only a dozen total from last summer.

I can live with that.

If you want more traffic,I suggest that you forget about forums and go hard into blogging.Posting like you already do in your blogger section.

I have Wordpress blog that is two years old now.It gets good traffic but rarely any comments comes by.But I notice that the more articles I post,the more traffic I get.

I can live with that too because some places get a bucket load (Watts Up With That),therefore the word is getting out.That AGW hypothesis is bunkum.

People seem to be very slowly gravitating to my forum over time,because it is a place that Alarmists avoid.This a place where skeptics can relax and discuss things without having to deal with the baloney that Warmists commonly bring in.It could be too that they know who I am and thus know they will never get away with the posting mudslinging and get warnings (my forum can do that very well) and suspensions or the ban!

Joe Romm is a member of my forum,but never posted.He knows who I am!

but is it the site appearance or is Climate Realists just flat?

Skeptical climate forums is simply not a big draw no matter what you do.I doubt you could make that much difference if the appearance was more like my forum (which I think is nicer).I still have just 101 members and only about 14 who are active.

I have never seen a large climate only forum exist.

[Ravenna]

I forgot to mention about your HOMEPAGE.

I think it is very good and do visit that far more often that I have visited the forum.

I think it is the best part of your whole set up.

[Mike Davis]

I found Q and G both frustrating and entertaining. However I take the view that humans are a pimple on earth's butt, little more than a minor irritation that will go away. We do not live in harmony with nature because unlike what the lofty dreamers want to believe there is no harmony in nature. Nature is about fighting for existence and in the end nature will always win. Our goal as humans is to learn to better adapt and use what nature provides. There are those who claim we are introducing unnatural things into the biosphere. If it exists it is natural even if we had to do some recombining to form something useful such as plastics. The only difference between helpful and harmful is concentration of substance.
I think we are here to experience life and contribute to humanities evolutionary growth. Promoting restrictive measures such as those that are being promoted to "Fight" so called Human induced climate change is against my understanding on two counts.First is the illusion that humans are or have had an effect on climate when all historic evidence pints to natural causes. Second is that what is being proposed is restrictive in nature and would result in more damage to the entire biosphere and humanity than adapting to whatever is coming.

The historic climate records have been shown to be garbage so can not be relied on for a base to build any argument on for or against AGW. CO2's contribution is little more than make believe, Sort of like a children's fairy tale.

If the scientists can not stand up and complain about what has transpired over the recent past related to climate research then science has outlived its usefulness and become a burden to society along with the reporters in the MSM.

will watch but probably not comment because both supporters and sceptics are building on a base of sand that is being washed away by natural events.
I think this article pretty much says it all:
http://climaterealists.com/index.php?id=6026

[Mike Davis]

In closing I will say that I did my part as I saved 72 acres from being developed for housing and allow it to regenerate a forest.