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Friday, February 11th 2011, 8:02 AM EST
There is an important point that was missed in your article about the Stefan-Boltzmann equation. Applying the argument to the “greenhouse gas” theory is quite simple: there can be no “back radiation” from the colder atmosphere to the warmer earth’s surface. It violates the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics as it applies to radiative transfer…’

More following from Dr. Martin Hertzberg, a coauthor of “Slaying the Sky Dragon-Death of the Greenhouse Gas Theory”…

‘Consider two flat, parallel surfaces each with unit emissivity facing each other. One surface is maintained at a higher temperature, Th while the other surface is maintained at a lower temperature Tc . If the hotter surface were facing a complete void or surroundings at 0 K, the flux of radiant energy that it would emit and that the void would receive is sTh4.

‘Similarly, if the colder surface were facing a complete void or surroundings at 0 K, the flux of radiant energy that it would emit and that the void would receive is sTc4. But neither of the surfaces is facing a void: they are facing each other, and accordingly the net flux of radiant energy in the field between them is:

I (net) = s (Th4 – Tc4 )

and is always from the hotter surface to the colder surface as required by the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

‘Nowhere in the radiation field between the two surfaces is the flux of radiant energy equal to what either of the surfaces would emit if they were facing a complete void at 0 K! Thus, the simple use of the Stefan-Boltzmann equation to characterize the emission from a source of radiation as though it depends only on the temperature of the source without considering the temperature of the surroundings that are receiving the radiation, is a misuse of the equation, and the notion that a colder source can transfer radiant energy to a warmer object involves not only a misuse of the Stefan-Boltzmann equation but also a violation of the 2nd Law.

‘The situation is analogous to a simple problem in mechanics. A 1 Kg mass is sitting on a frictionless table and is subjected to a force of 10 Newtons from left to right and simultaneously subjected to a force of 7 Newtons from right to left. Now you are free to calculate what the motion would be if only the 10 Newton force acted on the mass, or if you prefer, you can calculate what the motion would be if only the 7 Newton mass operated on it. But, of course, neither of those calculations describes the real motion, which is that of a 3 Newton force acting from left to right. There is no motion to the left from the weaker force.

‘Thus it should be quite clear that the simple use of the Stefan-Boltzmann equation as though it can characterize the radiant energy being transferred from a source to its surroundings without any reference to the conditions of the surroundings that are receiving that radiant energy, is a misuse of the equation.’

Dr. Martin Hertzberg coauthor of Slaying the Sky Dragon-Death of the Greenhouse Gas Theory

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Part 1 on the Equation: http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2011/02/a-note-on-the-stefan-boltzman-equation/

The Dragon book: http://slayingtheskydragon.com/

Apologies in advance: The equations inserted into the above texts appear to be displaying OK as posted – using internet explorer as my browser. But I have had problems before with mathematics in blogs displaying properly – so apologies in advance if they aren’t looking right.

Posted by Joe Olson (forum) on Feb 11th 2011, 8:43 AM EST
Thermodynamic is a required course for all engineering students. I completed my two semesters of Thermo over 40 years ago. Thermo is NOT required or understood by the vast majority of Climatologists or Meteorologists, hence their gross scientifically flawed 'hypothesis' on CO2.

I have replied to their stated errors in my article "Rocket Scientists Need NOT Apply". One of my Co-authors in "Slaying the Sky Dragon" is Dr Claes Johnson, Professor of Applied Mathematics at the Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm. When our eBook appeared in Nov, 2010 Dr Johnson was censored by the university and ordered NOT to teach a formula that all engineers have been required to know in his Numerical Methods class. The reason ?
This formula could be used to PROVE that CO2 was not warming the planet. That action was covered in my article:

"Carbon Warfare Rules of Engagement"

What the warmists expect you to believe is that 28 Giga-tons of microscopic 'dirt' that human have placed in the air controls the Earth's temperature. Converted to dirt, as plants will do with the 'carbon cycle' this 28 G-tons is less than 3 cubic miles. We are expected to BELIEVE that 3 cubic miles of dirt controls the temperature of 259 trillion cubic miles of MOLTEN ROCK. This is breath takingly STUPID.

Celebrate V-AGW Day....it is OVER for the warmist and their little Luke Warmist friends ! ! !
Posted by Ian (forum) on Feb 11th 2011, 3:27 PM EST
Joe, I'd like to thank you and all the scientists that have had the patience, persistence and pluck to stand up and not only be counted but to actually advance the science. Without seeking to cloud the issues, some of the luke warmists are contributing to advancement too.
Discovering who, how and why the evidence free 3 guesses hypothesis was turned from idea to dogma, who in the scientific, environmental, hippy, financial, refrigerant, farming, energy, legal, charity, religious, pop and political communities colluded in the transition (who [which "freemasons"] had the wherewithal [funds and influence of funding decisions] to organise such) from e.g. Dr Tim's blog at CFP is a fascinating, stranger than fiction journey. If the truth makes it to the history books, I envy future schoolkids a little.
The contention unleashed has caused some interesting stones to be lifted in politics such as the sham of opposition by the alignment of conservative socialism, labour socialism and liberal socialism in the UK.
The news rags that have so badly misled the public are seeing sales falling as increasing numbers turn to internet to seek the truth (I suspect as long as they are cheaper than bog roll there will always be a market). The BBC is being punished for bias but continues regardless - until it finds itself without funding.
The truth emerges in the end. Less bells and whistles than the lies but there for anyone to find if they look.
Now about the influence of the phase change of H2O in the stratosphere ...
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