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Interview with Piers Corbyn: What happens when the SUN heats up a planet?
Tuesday, September 8th 2009, 4:00 AM EDT
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There has been so much talk about the melting icecaps recently I thought I would try and enlighten people as to how and why this analysis is ongoing and spurious in it's outcome.

After sifting through several articles of both parties (AGW & Climate Realists) I contacted WeatherAction.Com Astrophysist Piers Corbyn and put it to him that there is too much misinformation going on and that the general public should be able to have a better understanding on how our planet warms and cools. This is what he said.... there seems to be a vital piece of the jigsaw missing in the public domain in these articles, and that's the physics of .....what happens when the SUN heats up a planet.

I have put together a simple guide to assist those who wish to hang on to the belief that what they see from their results at the poles somehow "Proves" the AGW theory.

The first point of warming on a planet from several years of an "Active" succession of solar cycles is at the Equator and the last point of warming is at the Pole's. The reason for this delay is that it takes many years for the warmer ocean current's to filter through from the Equator to the Poles.

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The reverse can then be said that the first point of cooling from several years of low solar activity is the Equator and the last is the Poles.

What seems to be put forward by the people that support the AGW theory is that the so called "proof" they have, is that they can show the result of a few melting icebergs, what they do not pass on is that the world temperatures at the Equator have become cooler. It's as if they want to say if they can show melting ice then the rest of the world is becoming warmer. It is essential that people realize that the poles are the LAST place of warming NOT the FIRST.

The notion that CO2 warms the world has come to a dead end, what you see is desperation from the people who support AGW, they try and prop up a "scientific theory" that has run out of so called facts. CO2 follows warming it does NOT lead. We will continue to see an increase of CO2 for many years but the world will continue to cool and that in itself will be an end of this "scientific theory". The Poles will be pocketed with small warm areas for a time due to the warmer Ocean currents NOT CO2!
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Posted by nickdart (forum) on Sep 8th 2009, 7:31 AM EDT
Excellent info from Corbyn as usual.

Thing is, we need Corbyn or somebody that's able to break the stranglehold that the media engine (BBC and press) has here in the UK and say this on National TV and papers because we here in the UK are still hoodwinked into the AGW theory and CO2 being the protagonist as usual. Obviously we know different here but we need some kind of national coverage to tell everybody. We almost need a pirate TV broadcast at 6 pm but that's not going to happen.

I wonder, if and when the message get's over that CO2 is not the evil here and government agencies agree...do all of us running cars get a big refund for all the excess car tax we have paid over years? Hmmm.

Thanks Corbyn though and admins for getting this valuable info...
Posted by Stephen Wilde (forum) on Sep 8th 2009, 8:03 AM EDT
That brings support for my overarching theories about the interplay between incoming solar energy and the various decadal or multi decadal oceanic oscillations.

A change in the heat coming from the sun may not have an immediate effect unless it is in phase with the overall average state of the various oceanic oscillations.

Thus a decline in solar energy will have an immediate effect if it occurs at a time when the overall balance of all the oceanic oscillations is negative as now (2007 to date) when the end of solar cycle 23 is significantly delayed and the late start of cycle 24 suggests a weaker cycle than we have had for some time.

A cooling effect of such a solar decline will be delayed if it occurs at a time when the overall balance of all the oceanic oscillations is positive (1998 to 2007) when solar cycle 23 started showing it’s weakness in relation to previous solar cycles but the Pacific Decadal Oscillation was still positive.

An increase in solar energy will have a delayed effect if it occurs at a time when the overall balance of the oceanic oscillations is negative (1961 to 1975) when solar cycles 18 and 19 were historically intense but the effect was masked by the negative Pacific Decadal Oscillation.

The warming effect will be immediate if it occurs at a time when the overall balance of the oceanic oscillations is positive (1975 to 1998) during the historically active cycles 21 and 22.

Remember that there is a variable lag between the initial solar effect of warming or cooling on the Pacific Ocean and that effect then working through all the other oceanic oscillations so it is difficult to establish the overall balance of the oceanic oscillations at any given time. In fact it is more likely that observed changes in the trend of global temperature will be the first and simplest indication as to when a global shift from solar/oceanic warming mode to solar/oceanic cooling mode and vice versa has occurred.

Indeed on the basis of my previous article about weather being the key it may be possible to get even earlier warning of changes in global temperature trend from observation of the preferred positions of the jet streams and the main high pressure systems.
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