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BREAKING NEWS: Greenhouse Gas Theory Trashed in Groundbreaking Lab Experiment by John O'Sullivan, guest post at Climate Realists: Updated by Nasif S. Nahle
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Greenhouse gas theory of global warming is refuted in momentous Mexican lab experiment. Results mean epic fail for doomsaying cult and climate taxes.

Professor Nahle of Monterrey, Mexico backed by a team of international scientists has faithfully recreated a famous experiment from 1909 to confirm that the greenhouse effect cannot cause global warming.

Astonishingly, the 1909 greenhouse gas experiment first performed by Professor Robert W. Wood at John Hopkins University hadn’t been replicated for a century. This despite over $100 billion spent by the man-made global warming industry trying to prove its case that carbon dioxide is a dangerous atmospheric pollutant.

The analogy had been that greenhouse gases (e.g. CO2) act like the glass in a greenhouse trapping heat in Earth’s atmosphere and if they build up (due to human industrial emissions) the planet would dangerously overheat.

Nahle Nails Shut Climate Scare Coffin

At the Biology Cabinet laboratories Professor Nahle was able to confirm the astounding findings: Wood was right all along. After peer-review the results confirm that the so-called ‘greenhouse effect’ is solely due to the blockage of convective heat transfer within the environment in which it is contained i.e. as in this case, a lab flask.

Updated below with comments by Nasif S. Nahle

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Indeed, it is the glass of the lab flask (or ‘greenhouse’) that caused the “trapped” radiation all along. The flask (or greenhouse) being what scientists refer to as a ‘closed system’; while Earth’s atmosphere isn’t closed at all but rather open to space allowing heat energy to freely escape.

Nahle’s findings shoot holes in claims of Professor Pratt of Stanford University whose own replication of Wood’s experiment was touted as the first official reconstruction of Wood’s test for a century. Pratt claimed he had disproved Wood’s findings.

“This is the reason that I decided to repeat the experiment of Professor Pratt to either falsify or verify his results and those of Professor Wood,“ says the Mexican professor at the Biology Cabinet.

The Monterrey science research institute also recreated Wood’s test into the effect of longwave infrared radiation trapped inside a greenhouse. Unlike Pratt it found that Wood’s findings were correct, absolutely valid and systematically repeatable. The Bio Cab man affirms, “ the greenhouse effect does not exist as it is described in many didactic books and articles.”

Put simply, one of the aforementioned professors has their reputation perilously on the line and Nahle is gunning for an explanation from his U.S. Rival. A clue to the outcome: Pratt isn't even qualified in science - he's a (warmist) mathematician specializing in computers.

Satellite Records Back Up Mexican Findings

Professor Nahle’s findings will come as no surprise to anyone who is up to speed with the other big climate story that has raised huge doubts over any so-called greenhouse effect. NASA now admits global warming just isn’t happening despite ever-rising levels of CO2.

Laughably, the once illustrious U.S. space agency is blaming no warming this century on China. The rapidly industrializing nation is emitting so much sulfur dioxide that it is “cooling” our planet, they say.

Back Story of Greenhouse Gas Mythology

Professor Wood’s science held sway until the mid 1930's after he proved that on average, the blockage of convective heat transfer with the surroundings causes an increase of temperature inside the greenhouses of 10.03 °C with respect to the surroundings temperature.

After World War Two interest in the GHE was briefly resurrected again. But the American Meteorological Society shot this down in 1951 after it reviewed all the available data and produced the "Compendium of Meteorology" appearing to kill off the cultist claims.

However, fearmongers were finally able to resurrect the notion of a GHE in the mid 1980's when a certain ‘science adviser’ to Margaret Thatcher, Christopher Monckton (not then a Lord), helped promote the idea so as to aid the defeat of Britain’s striking coal miners.

Three Sides in the Climate Argument and Two are Wrong

Lord Monckton has fastidiously stood by his position that there is GHE despite prominently publishing his own findings that it just isn’t there. He finds himself on one of three sides at war in the great global warming debate and only one can be right.

Monckton along with other skeptics such as Richard Lindzen and Roy Spencer have been labeled ‘lukewarmists’ for their stubborn adherence that there must be ‘some’ warming, however small caused by CO2. They are unlikely climate bedfellows with the likes of Professor Pratt and are opposed to the ‘Slayers’ group of GHE skeptics of which Professor Nahle has become increasingly prominent.

Another rising star of the Slayers group of scientists, Joe Postma concurs with Nahle’s results and says, “I will never be convinced of a radiative greenhouse effect without experimental proof. As it is, I have proven how the standard application of the Stefan-Boltzmann equation which ostensibly explains the greenhouse effect is a complete fiction and tautology.”

Strident Slayers Begin Global Science Association

Postma and Nahle join long-standing GHE skeptics, Alan Siddons and Hans Schreuder as they prepare to formally launch a new global research association, Principia Scientific International (PSI) recruiting untold numbers of conscientious scientists sickened by endemic corruption within science.

Nahle’s new paper buttresses Siddons’ arguments and is earmarked to set the tone of the ‘no holds barred’ style of PSI, which will be set up as an independent (non-governmental) organization eschewing political interference. With a mission to uphold the scientific method with objectivity and transparency Nahle and his PSI compatriots insist empirical experimental research as the only means to prevail over dogmatic (government financed) junk science.

The new organization will be looking for other challenges once the mainstream finally accepts that it has slayed the climate fraud. But Siddons insists, “greenhouse theory and its associated alarmism only persist because of a stubborn refusal to question the following two assumptions below.

Assumption One: Gases that absorb infrared light thereby block infrared light.

Reality: Such gases radiate, i.e., “scatter” or spread out the light they absorb, thus releasing light in all directions rather than blocking it.

Assumption Two: Blocking the exit of light while allowing free entry will increase the temperature of an irradiated object.”

Reality: The light an object emits is a function of its temperature; its temperature is not a function of the light it emits. Accordingly, if incoming light raises an object to a certain temperature, the object will remain at that temperature whether it emits light to its surroundings or not. Any temperature increase in a confined condition is only due to reduced convective cooling.”

Such clear cut and plain-speaking objectivity, plus a wholesale return to the traditional scientific method, is the only acceptable paradigm for this emerging intellectual and scientific force.
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Posted by cleanwater (forum) on Jul 18th 2011, 12:04 PM EDT
Here is another experiment that confirms the fact that the "greenhouse gas effect does not exist"
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The Experiment that Failed and can save the World trillions.
Proving the “greenhouse gas effect” does not exist!

By Berthold Klein P.E November 16, 2010 revision 11-19-2010 REVISED STARTING JULY 4,2011

PREAMBLE: After hearing from a Ph. D in mechanical engineering and a teacher of environmental studies that they could not follow this experiment it is necessary to rewrite this experiment. It is necessary that anyone that can read to be able to understand this experiment and what it means. I made a mistake in the first edition as it is created as I thought about it and did the experiment. This edition is for everyone -the man on the street who would suffer the most by government “1984 Big Brother” control and the Ph. D in social studies or science.

I have been communicating with some ordinary people and some Ph. D's and I realize that my mission is a “Mission Impossible” being able to read does not mean that the reader can comprehend and that having a Ph. D means that their ego and arrogance will get in the way of comprehension. I will do my best with the help of those that edit the new version , so here goes.

Before this is released it will have been reviewed and edited by knowledge individuals most will have minimal science education but do understand that the “Greenhouse Gas effect” does not exist.

There are several words or terms used in this revision that need some explanation:

IR= infrared radiation is a form of radiation(invisible light also know as heat rays) that is present in sun light and is also radiated by every body of mater whether it is a gas, a liquid or a solid. If it is a living thing it will radiate more IR that if it is an inanimate object because of its temperature.

IRag= Certain gases will absorb different wavelengths of radiation (a characteristic of the light ) depending on the construction of the gas. Some gases do not absorb IR , there construction will not allow them to absorb the IR, they may absorb other forms of radiation but as was said above they still radiate IR. Many other materials including water will absorb IR. These should not be included in the term IRags. The words “greenhouse gas effect” has never been proven by creditable scientific experiments and therefore will only be used when absolutely necessary.

Water/l/v/s=Water has some very important characteristic that are important to earth and to live on earth. Because of earth's fortunate location in the universe ,it's temperature varies from a low of-90 F to a high 130 F+. But in the majority of the earth temperatures are between 0 F to 100 F. and water can change from a gas at all temperature ,to a liquid at 32F(0C) or above,and a solid below 32 F.(0 C). Many people who pretend to be scientists choose to ignore these facts and call Water/l/v/s a “greenhouse gas” As we go through this experiment it will become clearer why this is bad science.

CO2= a gas that is breathed out by every living mammal and most other living creature,it is absorbed by plants and algae and is them converted back to oxygen which we need to live. Most process that produce mechanical movements and electrical energy convert fossil fuels to CO2( carbon dioxide) A very important and necessary part of live on this planets.

CH4= methane a part of “natural gas” used to heat homes ,cook food and run engines as cars,buses and trucks,etc .It is present in the ground along with oil but is only present in the air(atmosphere) at very tiny amounts.( part per billion) While millions of tons of this gas escape into the atmosphere most of this is destroyed by interaction with Ozone(O3) and UV a very active radiation present in sunlight.(this reaction is documented by a paper in the EPA library) The Methane that is formed by bacteria is almost everywhere. Its from swamps,rice paddies, bottom of oceans, lakes and streams, decaying leave piles etc. It is a part of natures process of recycling.

NO2= a gas formed by nature when there is lightening. It is also formed in any high temperature burning including engines. The gas is washed out of the atmosphere in every rainstorm. It is used by plants, and is very necessary for their growth.

To demonstrate if the “greenhouse gas effect exists it is necessary to define it.

The hypotheses of the “greenhouse gas effect” is the process where a combination of IR absorbing gases including Water/vapor/liquid/solid, CO2.CH4. NO2 and others are super insulation and cause the atmosphere to be 33 degrees warmer than would be explained by the “black body temperature” A term developed by a renowned physicist as a theoretical way to compare radiation. There are only a few materials and conditions that approach these theoretical properties. (The earth and its atmosphere is not one of them.).

How is this done? The hypothesis says that the IRag’s absorb the IR radiation then it is “back radiated to earth causing the earth to be warmer by the resonating of this heat energy.

This is just the tip of the iceberg of the magic caused by the “greenhouse gas effect” as has been said the truth is in the details therefore anyone that wants to get into more of the details,please join in.

As others have not started to define “The greenhouse gas effect” lets start with what are the “features that should be testable!” Because water/liquid, vapor,solid (H2O /lvs) is different than gases IRag's as CO2 ,Ch4,NO2 and others gases -the IRag's will be dealt with first.

Critical features:

1. The IRags absorb the IR radiation and thus prevents it from escaping into space reducing the rate of atmospheric cool- it causes the air to be warmer.
2. The IRags will “back radiate” IR radiation to earth to cause increased heating of the surface.
3. The IRags will heat up by the absorption of the IR radiation thus heating the air.
4. The IRag's have different levels of “back-forcing”.Thus CO2 is supposed to be from 23 to 70 times more “back radiation “ and CH4 (methane) is 1000 times that of CO2 Having ask others how this is determined,( no answer yet) ,it is assumed that someone has reviewed the amount of IR that a particular molecule absorbs by a IR spectrophotometer analysis then comparing this to the absorption of CO2. (I have not seen any experimental data that the “back-forcing” relates to absorption).This is a very important feature of the “ghg effect”
5. The higher the concentration of IRags the greater the amount of “back-radiation” the higher the temperature of the Earth and “global atmospheric temperature will also increase.
6. The concentration of CO2 found in million year old Ice cores can be used as proof that the “ghg effect” exists. When there is no experimental data that proves that the “ghg effect”exists.
7. Where does this lead?

We all know that the “greenhouse” effect exist. Anyone that has gotten into a hot car on a sunny day.(summer or winter). Has walked into a store with south facing window , its temperature will be much higher than a car ,or window in the shade. This is caused by confined space heating- this was established in 1909 by R.W. Wood a professor of Physics and Optics at John Hopkins University from 1901 to 1955.

What experiment could be performed to “prove” that the ''greenhouse gas effect exists.

All the AGW point out it is impossible to simulate what actually happens in the atmosphere therefore they propose using computer models. The problem with “computer models'' is that unless all the factors that effect the atmosphere are included into the program it is “garbage in is garbage out”. When this is tried there are no computers made that have sufficient capacity to handle all of the factors. Many of the factors are not even fully know yet. Then the big guess is what are the factors to include and which are really of minor importance and can be left out and still get usable results. To data no one has come up with the “right model” More than 20 different “models of weather /climate program have been published and not one has been successful in predicting the weather a year from now ,let alone a hundred years from now.

Using the list of “critical factor” lets see if there are some ways of indicating if the concept may exist.

To use the concentration of IRags in the atmosphere for testing does not work otherwise there would not be the controversy that exists today. In the field of engineering and research there is the use of “scale models''” or models with similar factors that can be either up sized or down sized. That are either similar in behavior or can be proportioned to a larger or smaller series of events that relate to an actual set of events. That generate data that can be compared to known conditions or events.

As the amount of heating that is supposed to be added by the “greenhouse gas effect” is on the order of fractions of a degree per year-( some claim the change to be 1 to 3 degrees/ year) we need a more dramatic experiment to show that the concept actually exists. If the experiment at a much higher concentration does demonstrate the effect then the Concept does exist. If the concept does works at high concentration then it can be tried with lower and lower concentrations until a threshold of effects is reached. However if the concepts does not work at High Concentrations of IRags then the concept of the theoretical “greenhouse gas effect “has been proven to be a fraud.

Some numbers are needed now: By definition 10,000 ppm is 1%, therefore 100 % equals 1million parts per million( 1x10+6) . Another way to put it is if there are 1 million soldiers in the army and only one has a gun ,he better have a lot of bullets if he is going to defend the country. The atmosphere is supposed to contain 400 ppm (round Number) therefore a concentration of 100% CO2 is 2500 time that of what is in the atmosphere. If the effect exists it should be much easier to measure and demonstrate that “back radiation” Is causing a heating effect on the earth.

Now it is claimed that CH4 is from 23 to 70 time the effect of CO2,thus using the lowers figure by using a concentration of 100 % CH4 ,the effect should be 57500 time stronger that using CO2. It is claimed that NO2 is 100 time more powerful that CO2 thus it should cause 250,000 X the effect of CO2 in the atmosphere.

As CH4 is found to be about 2ppB ( 2 X 10 -9)in the atmosphere , a concentration of 100 % CH4 should give a results that is 5 X 10 + 10 times what exists in the atmosphere.

. Now if CH4 is 23 times the effect of CO2 another longer chain hydrocarbon molecule will be even more powerful thus the proposed experiment shown below was done with 100 % butane.

The experiment shown below substituted “natural gas” a mixture of 70% CH4 about 29% CO2 and the remainder is H2 and other trace gases. This is readily available for test purposed from any natural gas stove. Now 100 % CO2 is available for several sources, but one that is not too expensive is from any Paint ball supply store, another is from a supplier of Dry ice. Do not use Alka Seltzer as you have to put this in water to get the CO2 thus you have a mixture of CO2 and water and water vapor – you are not testing the effect of CO2 only. Discussion of H2O/lvs in the atmosphere will follow later.

The natural gas mixture should have a combined effect of less that 100% CH4 by a weighted average of 70% CH4+ 29% CO2or 3.500000725X10+9 times the effect of CO2 in the atmosphere. If this occurs the temperature increase must be measurable.

How does the experiment contain the high concentration of the IRags for this test? Having reviewed several experiments that contained the IRags is glass containers then they measures the increase in temperature of the gas which had increased, they claimed this increase was do to the “ghg”effect, they are absolutely wrong. The cause of the temperature increase was do to the heating of the glass by its absorbing the IR and the glass heating. ( A Master's thesis (peer reviewed) with this information is available on request). Another failure of these tests were their including a black cardboard inside the containers, thus additional heating of the IRag's from conduction of heat from the black cardboard. (They created a Greenhouse effect-confined space heating)

The proper way to contain the high concentration of IRags is in a thin walled material that will not absorb the IR and heat. The experiment used crystal clear Mylar balloons. They are available in various sizes, several 20 inch diameter(major diameter) were chosen. If you want you can use larger ones to contain larger numbers of IRag molecules.

Now lets discuss the experiment.

1. Fill the balloons with the various IRags ,and one with dry air as a control.
2. Let the balloons reach ambient temperature. If you are going to use sunlight let it adjust outside in the shade.
3. Use an IR thermometer to check the temperatures of each balloon, use a digital thermometer that reads to 0.1 degree to check air temperature in the shade. Record data.
4. Take a large black mate board or a large black cloth or sheet and lay it on the ground in the sun. Use the IR thermometer to check the temperature as it raises in the sun. Record the data. When it appears to reach a maximum then go to step 5.
5. Suspend the balloons over the black background (about 1 foot above) and measure the temperature of the balloons initially. Record the temperature.
6. Measure the temperature of the black background in the “shadow” of each of the balloons also measure the temperature of the black background outside of the “shadows” of the balloons.

Now lets repeat the Critical factors and note the result of my test to the critical factor.
Critical features:

1. The IRags absorb the IR radiation and thus prevents it from escaping into space reducing the rate of atmospheric cool- it causes the air to be warmer. The air between the balloons and the black background did not change temperature.
2. The IRags will “back radiate” IR radiation to earth to cause increased heating of the surface. The black background did not change temperature either in the “shadow” or outside the shadow. The temperature of the black background heated to 20 t0 30 degrees above ambient before the balloons were placed over the black background. When this was done outside in bright sun light the black background heated to 130 to 140 degrees F. Similar temperature can be measured from black asphalt. When the experiment was done with the 500 watt power shop light (see below)inside the black background went from ambient of 70-72 degrees to 100 -110 degrees. Again when measuring the temperatures of the black background with the IR thermometer there was no measurable temperature difference anywhere along the surface.
3. The IRags will heat up by the absorption of the IR radiation thus heating the air. The balloons did not warn any warmer than ambient. The IRags in the balloons will not warm because that would be a violation of the Bohr Model.
4. The IRag's have different levels of “back-forcing”. Having ask others how this is determined,( no answer yet) ,it is assumed that someone has reviewed the amount of IR that a particular molecule absorbs by a spectrophotometer analysis then comparing this to the absorption of CO2. (I have not seen any experimental data that the “back-forcing” relates to absorption).(an assumption based on The Bohr model however a time factor is needed) As there was no temperature difference under any of the balloons, there was no stronger “back-forcing” because the IRag absorbed more IR radiation.
5. The higher the concentration of IRags the greater the amount of “back-radiation” the higher the “global atmospheric temperature will become.(were is the experimental data )
6. The concentration of CO2 found in million year old Ice cores can be used as proof that the “ghg effect” exists. When there is no experimental data that proves that the “ghg effect”exists.
Specifications of the IR thermometer: model: MTPRO laser-Micro Temp; temperature range: -41degree C/F to 1040 degrees F. IR range 5 to 16 nm. Angle of view D:S =11:1
cost about $60.00. many other models available.

I have thought about several refinements, but it would not change the bottom line that the “ghg effect” is a fairy-tale.

I'm sure that the AGW's will not believe this proves that the “greenhouse gas effect does not exists , therefore I challenge them to come up with an experiment that they claim “proves the existence of the “greenhouse gas effect”.

As an alternate light source the experiment has been performed with an incandescent light. By using a 500 watt shop power light which because of the temperature of the filament approach the spectral characteristics of the Sun light ( should have more long wave IR because of a lower temperature) It was place one(1) meter away from the balloons to avoid conduction and convection heating of the balloons. As is stated above there was no difference in the final results.

Now lets talk about water( H2O/lvs):

Yes H2O/lvs has a major effect on weather conditions, where I'm at in Northern Ohio it just started to rain, if it gets any colder we will have snow or sleet. Of course tomorrow it may be sunny and clear. As is said in the Great Lakes region if you don't like the weather wait 15 minutes and it will change. Now the “climate” has not changed for the last 300 years just ask the Indians.

Any way lets look a H2O/lvs in the atmosphere : If its clear the humidity can be from near 0 % relative humidity to 100%. Now if it 's cloudy the “relative Humidity” can vary from 30 to 100% depending on temperatures, Now we know that the air temperature where the clouds are forming is at or below the “dew point”, now as the H2O vapor cools to form clouds there is a release of energy( Heat of condensation), if the general air temperature is low enough ( below freezing) more energy is released as ice or snow is formed. This energy has to be dissipated either as IR radiation or as lightening or probably high winds or tornado.

This is only one phase of the complex weather conditions when H2O/lvs is being evaluated another is the solar heating of clouds both day and night. During the day the warming of the top of clouds is obvious but it is also relevant that in spite of significant solar absorption the “clouds “ have not absorbed enough radiation to convert the water or solids back to vapor; there is probably a rapid turbulent exchange of energy in both directions from evaporation/ sublimation to condensing, to freezing. This is why “climatologists” can not get the correct “sign” on the “forcing” it is a constantly changing set of conditions, non are wrong and non are correct.

Now lets add the next variable- solar heating at night of the clouds. Having taken IR radiation measurements at night for the last year at many different times by solar time it is apparent that when the sun goes down below the visible horizon , the clouds are still receiving solar energy. This has been confirmed by both measurements and visible lighting (multiple colors ) of the clouds. The clouds and the atmosphere cool until about 2:00 am when there is measurable increases in cloud temperatures and air temperatures. This warming continues until daylight is visible. The degree of warming is related to the time of year and what is happening with the jet stream and arctic storms.

There are other factors that are being monitored by real astrophysics researcher that are showing that Solar flares, and different type of radiation have an effect on cloud formation,this is only a beginning of learning about our atmosphere.

There is no way in the world of Fairy-tales that CO2 can have an effect on weather or “climate”

The nice thing about this experiment is that it can be done by high school physics classes or freshmen college physics lab classes . It would teach a very important lesson in that “not all experiments have to have a “positive” end result to be meaningful.

Mann-made global warming is a hoax,because the “greenhouse gas effect” is a fairy -tale.

Berthold Klein P.E.

November 19, 2010
List of references:
The paper "Falsification of the Atmospheric CO2 greenhouse effect within the frame of physics" by Gerhard Gerlich and Ralf D. Tscheuschner is an in-depth examination of the subject. Version 4 2009
Electronic version of an article published as International Journal of Modern Physics
B, Vol. 23, No. 3 (2009) 275{364 , DOI No: 10.1142/S021797920904984X, c World
Scientific Publishing Company, http://www.worldscinet.com/ijmpb.
Report of Alan Carlin of US-EPA March, 2009 that shows that CO2 does not cause global warming.

Greenhouse Gas Hypothesis Violates Fundamentals of Physics” by Dipl-Ing Heinz Thieme This work has about 10 or 12 link
that support the truth that the greenhouse gas effect is a hoax.
R.W.Wood
from the London, Edinborough and Dublin Philosophical Magazine , 1909, vol 17, p319-320. Cambridge UL shelf mark p340.1.c.95, i
The Hidden Flaw in Greenhouse Theory
By Alan Siddons
from:http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/the_hidden_flaw_in_greenhouse.html at March 01, 2010 - 09:10:34 AM CST

The below information was a foot note in the IPCC 4 edition. It is obvious that there was no evidence to prove that the ghg effect exists.

“In the 1860s, physicist John Tyndall recognized the Earth's natural greenhouse effect and suggested that slight changes in the atmospheric composition could bring about climatic variations. In 1896, a seminal paper by Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius first speculated that changes in the levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere could substantially alter the surface temperature through the greenhouse effect.”

After 1909 when R.W.Wood proved that the understanding of the greenhouse effect was in error and the ghg effect does not exist. After Niels Bohr published his work and receive a Nobel Prize in Physics in 1922. The fantasy of the greenhouse gas effect should have died in 1909 and 1922. Since then it has been shown by several physicists that the concept is a Violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

Obviously the politicians don’t give a dam that they are lying. It fits in with what they do every hour of every day .Especially the current pretend president.

Paraphrasing Albert Einstein after the Publishing of “The Theory of Relativity” –one fact out does 1 million “scientist, 10 billion politicians and 20 billion environmental whachos-that don’t know what” The Second Law of thermodynamics” is.

University of Pennsylvania Law School
ILE
INSTITUTE FOR LAW AND ECONOMICS
A Joint Research Center of the Law School, the Wharton School,
and the Department of Economics in the School of Arts and Sciences
at the University of Pennsylvania
RESEARCH PAPER NO. 10-08
Global Warming Advocacy Science: a Cross Examination
Jason Scott Johnston
UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA
May 2010
This paper can be downloaded without charge from the
Social Science Research Network Electronic Paper Collection:
http://ssrn.
Israeli Astrophysicist Nir Shaviv: 'There is no direct evidence showing that CO2 caused 20th century warming, or as a matter of fact, any warming' link to this paper on climate depot.
Slaying the Sky Dragon - Death of the Greenhouse Gas Theory [Kindle Edition]
Tim Ball (Author), Claes Johnson (Author), Martin Hertzberg (Author), Joseph A. Olson (Author), Alan Siddons (Author), Charles Anderson (Author), Hans Schreuder (Author), John O'Sullivan (Author)

Web- site references:
www.americanthinker.com Ponder the Maunder
wwwclimatedepot.com
icecap.us
www.stratus-sphere.com
SPPI
The Great Climate Clash -archives December, 2010 , G3 The greenhouse gas effect does not exist.( not yet peer reviewed).
many others are available.

The bottom line is that the facts show that the greenhouse gas effect is a fairy-tale and that Man-made global warming is the World larges Scam!!!The IPCC and Al Gore should be charged under the US Anti-racketeering act and when convicted - they should spend the rest of their lives in jail for the Crimes they have committed against Humanity.

The only thing more dangerous than ignorance is arrogance."
—Albert Einstein

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb." Benjamin Franklin
I am in the process of editing the text so it is more understandable And adding two more balloons for O2 and N2 but in it current text it should be usable.

Comment edited by Co2sceptic (forum) on Monday July 18, 2011 at 12:18 PM EDT
Posted by Climate Realist (forum) on Jul 18th 2011, 12:15 PM EDT
This confirms what I've been saying for years that the Greenhouse effect of an atmosphere is due to the slowness of convection and not the alleged warming affect of back radiation.

Well done to Professor Nahle!

Hopefully those of us true "deniers" who do not think that a greenhouse effect from back IR is possible will now be taken seriously!

The reason why the GHE is a false theory is because according to the laws of thermodynamics it is impossible for IR radiation from a surface to heat that surface further by back scattering. Simply because that surface (or indeed part of the atmosphere) is ALREADY at that temperature and is ALREADY of a sufficiently excited energy level to be emitting radiation of that wavelength. Therefore back scattering that same radiation to the surface cannot raise the energy level further.

The radiation is a consequence of the temperature of that system, not the cause of the temperature!
Posted by Climate Realist (forum) on Jul 18th 2011, 12:27 PM EDT
By the way, this is probably the most important break through in the war against the GHE theory!

John o Sullivan has slightly misunderstood the result of the experiment though:-

"Indeed, it is the glass of the lab flask (or ‘greenhouse’) that caused the “trapped” radiation all along. The flask (or greenhouse) being what scientists refer to as a ‘closed system’; while Earth’s atmosphere isn’t closed at all but rather open to space allowing heat energy to freely escape.
"

Yes, glass does reflect the IR much like CO2 scatters IR at it's interacting wavelengths throughout the atmosphere. HOWEVER, what was being trapped was heat due to the convection of air. It did not matter in Wood's experiment, and Nahle's repeat whether the chamber was capped with glass that reflected IR back into the chamber or polythene that allowed the IR from the chamber to escape. The temperatures were the same in both cases. This shows that the greenhouse effect is due not to radiation but due to the trapping of warm air by the lid of the chamber in the experiment and due to the slowness of convection in the earth's atmosphere. The glass topped chamber played the part of CO2 in the atmosphere.

IR radiation is merely scattered by IRIGs (infra red interacting gasses) such as CO2, no trapping of heat occurs due to radiation!
Posted by Stephen Wilde (forum) on Jul 18th 2011, 3:27 PM EDT
Take the logic one step further.

The process that prevents CO2 from warming the system is a change in the speed of the water cycle which is , of course, related to the rate of convection.

See here:

http://climaterealists.com/attachments/ftp/TheSettingAndMaintainingOfEarth.pdf
Posted by Bomber_the_Cat (forum) on Jul 18th 2011, 3:53 PM EDT
Cuckoo
I was reading an article this morning that said all the cuckoos had migrated early to Africa ( must be due to a lack of global warming)
But apparently there are few still here.
Posted by Co2sceptic (forum) on Jul 18th 2011, 4:02 PM EDT
Hi Bomber

Nice to see your still around, go ahead, please show the error of Nasif's way.
Posted by Climate Realist (forum) on Jul 18th 2011, 7:40 PM EDT
There is no error to Nasif's experiment!

This should be front page news around the world! As it is, even WUWT don't seem to want to publish it. Pah, lukewarmers!
Posted by Chelsea Trimble (Twitter) on Jul 19th 2011, 2:12 AM EDT
Who ever posted this as news worthy was lazy- you cant possibly have read the report. I ask you to go read it now, in full - print it out if you need to hold it in your hands, its not really worth the 34 pages of waste but i encourage you to do it on recycled paper.
The "report" is a repeated experiment on the effects of tempreture in a box.

A few boxs of cardboard , silicone and some 3mm glass wrapped in cotton and alfoil- do not adequatly demonstrate the environment and all its ability.

This well experiment has great methodology but shows a real lack of ability to asertain an authentic conclusion.

This backyard experiment does not mean the earth is healthy!

come on think about how wonderfully complex out planet is and the splendour of its layers and then compare it to a chunky cardboard box facing the sun.

if you are to disprove the growing concern people have for the environment why dont you try to show how burning fossil fuels are bennificial for the environment. And how unstoppable waste and industry is helping us and our planet. Strange how there are no groups lobying for the increase of fumes in our neigbourhood.

you can look at almost anything and get two sides of a story. what you need to do is step back and look at the big picture.

Every one knows that fossil fuels that are pumping black smoke into the air are not super healthy, its not like you are going to pump the fumes into a childs room. SO if we know - be honest we know that these things are bad, so why do we fight so hard for them when we should be embracing cleaner energy and trying to cut down on rubish.

I realy think you should be more responsable on the reports that you publish as your evidence. It does not assist in your cause only goes to show the ignorance of some.
Posted by John from France (forum) on Jul 19th 2011, 3:13 AM EDT
Chelsea,
How much black smoke have you, yourself, personally seen being pumped out lately by what? And I'm not referring to photoshopped pictures of cooling tower steam. We are talking about carbon dioxide, a colourless odourless gas absorbed by plants along with sunlight and other good things the earth can provide. That's what makes plants grow. They would not exist otherwise and neither would you.
Night-night,
Uncle John
Posted by Neil Jones (Twitter) on Jul 19th 2011, 3:23 AM EDT
Can you please cite the publication this comes from?
Posted by Neil Jones (Twitter) on Jul 19th 2011, 3:31 AM EDT
I've been doing a bit of research about Professor Nahle on the internet.

This is the guy who claims CO2 acts as a coolant at a time when an atmospheric cooling trend appears to be developing. Convenient for the anti-CO2 brigade, don't you think?

Yes I always look a gift-horse in the mouth, after all "gift" is the German word for poison.
Posted by jazznick2 (forum) on Jul 19th 2011, 4:05 AM EDT
Neil Jones

The link is in the body copy.
http://www.biocab.org/Wood_Experiment_Repeated.html
Posted by John from France (forum) on Jul 19th 2011, 4:08 AM EDT
Niel,
Did our mails cross or are you denying the phenomenon of photosynthesis? I'm sure you can provide a better brief definition than mine - in your own words. Go on, I'm all ears - and eyes, I won't demand peer-review.
Posted by Climate Realist (forum) on Jul 19th 2011, 5:45 AM EDT
There is no error to Nasif's experiment!

This should be front page news around the world! As it is, even WUWT don't seem to want to publish it. Pah, lukewarmers!
Posted by Climate Realist (forum) on Jul 19th 2011, 6:17 AM EDT
Neil Jones and Chelsea, you do not understand how the the greenhouse theory is alleged to work- which no-one has ever proven- simply because it cannot be proven, the greenhouse effect from IR does not exist! In fact the alleged theory is so weak that it can be easily disproved with a simple "back-yard" experiment. This experiment was first carried out in 1909 by Professor RW Wood who was the pre-eminent expert on IR radiation in his day. Wood knew that the GHE is a false theory and easily disprovable, which is what he did in 1909. Professor Nahle is merely successfully repeating Wood's groundbreaking experiment.

All it takes is the few boxes and simple materials that Nasif Nahle used to disprove the "greenhouse" theory! That is all Nahle needed to use, no more is necessary. If you actually read the experiment and conclusions properly- and account for the fact that English is not Nahle's first language in the reading- you will see that the glass does an excellent job of doing what CO2 is alleged to do. I.e. "trap" IR. In fact glass does a significantly better job of actually trapping the IR in the box than CO2 is alleged to do.

CO2 does not trap IR at all! Neither in the atmosphere nor in Nahle's experimental chambers. It merely scatters IR in random directions. And only at narrow wavelength bands, in particular the 15micron band. In this experiment the glass is REALLY trapping the IR in the box.

Glass is therefore a real life efficient trap for IR (which CO2 is not) and yet absolutely no extra warming is produced where in the chambers we should -if the GHE theory is correct- be seeing a massive increase in temperature in the glass topped chamber over the others. We do not, thus proving that heating from "back radiation" is impossible.

The reasons are this:-

1) IR radiation is not necessarily heat.
2) The laws of Thermodynamics cannot be broken- in particular , heat always passes from hot to cold, never the other way round.
3) A body that is hot enough to emit radiation of a certain wavelength cannot be heated by it's own radiation. That is because the body is already hot enough to be emitting at that wavelength, so its own back- scattered radiation will merely be scattered back and not further heat the body.

Wood and now Nahle have proven this with a simple experiment.
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