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Solar Climate Change: April Earthquakes/Volcano's could be just the start of what is to come for the next few months
Tuesday, April 17th 2012, 5:04 AM EDT
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The above is an extract from the Piers Corbyn March Earthquake & Major Volcano Red Warning chart published in March, the period 16th - 17th April was highlighted as a Top Red Warning (R3) period, as per note from Piers Corbyn...Red Warning periods – are now standardized R1 to R5 (most extreme effect)

2012 Significant Earthquake and News Headlines from earthquake.usgs.gov for April are as follows:

•Magnitude 7.0 EASTERN NEW GUINEA REG, PAPUA NEW GUINEA April 17, 2012
•Magnitude 6.7 OFFSHORE VALPARAISO, CHILE April 17, 2012
•Magnitude 6.5 VANUATU April 14, 2012
•Magnitude 6.9 GULF OF CALIFORNIA April 12, 2012
•Magnitude 6.5 MICHOACAN, MEXICO April 11, 2012
•Magnitude 5.9 OFF THE COAST OF OREGON April 11, 2012
•Magnitude 8.2 OFF THE WEST COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA April 11, 2012
•Magnitude 8.6 OFF THE WEST COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA April 11, 2012


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The recent story from SpaceWeather.com was NOT a major period (R3) on a scale of 1 -5 as you can see from the above Earthquake/Volcano trial chart from Piers Corbyn, and yet we have a two Earthquakes bigger then 6.5.

There WAS a "Solar Kick" felt TODAY (17th April) in Papua New Guinea & Chile (see above earthquake.usgs.gov list), news reports to follow soon.

I have produced the 22nd - 24th April period in advance as this is for a R4 level and you should make a note of this period.

More to follow soon


See also

Solar Climate Change: Magnetic fields on the sun's northeastern limb erupted on April 16th, producing one of the most visually-spectacular explosions in years - ClimateRealists.com

Magnitude 7.0 earthquake hits Papua New Guinea, no tsunami alert - uk.reuters.com

Strong earthquake shakes central Chile - foxnews.com
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Posted by Piers Corbyn (Twitter) on Apr 17th 2012, 9:08 AM EDT
The TWO Quakes this morning (17th ut) are now listed as M6.7 and M6.8 quakes. They were the biggest quakes around the world since the 12th, the tail of after effects from Indonesia 11th and therefore a pretty good confirmation of extra activity in this period 16-17th. See also WeatherAction notes:
http://www.weatheraction.com/displayarticle.asp?a=449&c=5

And if you want quake information before it is posted just subscribe (quakes are also provided with BI 45day and Eu detailed 30day maps).
Thanks piers - subscriber links via weatheraction.com above.
Posted by Piers Corbyn (Twitter) on Apr 18th 2012, 1:46 AM EDT
And Now a third on 17th from

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php

CHILE M6.7 at 03:50ut
PNG M6.8 at 07:14ut
South Sandwich Is M6.2 at 19:04ut


These well confirm WeatherAction next Quake period after Indonesia! Note they are all South hemisphere although we said nothing about hemisphere for this one.
Posted by theGingerZilla (Twitter) on Apr 18th 2012, 9:30 AM EDT
Thank you for making this public.

Another one on the 17th which I've added below, making 14 M6+ for April. This is a list from the USGS site of all M6 quakes this month so far chronologically

2/4 - 6.0 Cuajinicuilapa, Mexico
NONE
6/4 - 6.1 Taron, Png
NONE
11/4 - 8.6 Off The West Coast Of Northern Sumatra
- 6.0 North Indian Ocean
- 8.2 Off The West Coast Of Northern Sumatra
- 6.5 Arteaga, Mexico
12/4 - 6.2 Santa Isabel, Mexico
- 6.9 Santa Isabel, Mexico
NONE
14/4 - 6.2 Drake Passage
- 6.5 Isangel, Vanuatu
15/4 - 6.2 Off The West Coast Of Northern Sumatra
NONE
17/4 - 6.7 Hacienda La Calera, Chile
- 6.8 Lae, Papua New Guinea
- 6.2 East Of The South Sandwich Islands
NONE

Be interesting to see how the next R4 period works out and if the Hemisphere affected ('preferred') corresponds to the prediction.

The 'solar kick'theory is most intriguing. Many times we are told 'not earth facing - no effect', which I read in the paper today, yet we are being affected. Now if only you could link this theory to greenhouse gases then you would be an instant media fame. But then again you'd have to make a failed prediction and scaremonger for that to work ;)

Comment edited by theGingerZilla (Twitter) on Wednesday April 18, 2012 at 9:30 AM EDT

Comment edited by theGingerZilla (Twitter) on Thursday April 19, 2012 at 3:48 PM EDT - added 'NONE' to show no M6 EQ's have occurred .
Posted by Co2sceptic (forum) on Apr 18th 2012, 10:23 AM EDT
theGingerZilla

I think of the "solar kick" in terms of action/re-action

One part of the Sun does one thing another part does something else!

The effect could be that an Earth facing area on the Sun sends out other particles whilst activity is going on in another loction, it must be something like that otherwise how do you account for the changes we see.

There have been far to many "hits" when these non facing areas happen
Posted by Piers Corbyn (Twitter) on Apr 18th 2012, 11:35 PM EDT
Thanks GZ!

Lots going on! Notes:

1. The trial predictions are for major events in their own right &/or significant events compared to background of quakes whatever that is at the time.

2. The 16-17th although 'only an R3' had to be - and was - pretty dramatic to show up against the suddenly enhanced background following the giant Indonesia hits ~8-10th which came on morning of 11th (Utc). It might be argued that therefore the ~22-24th will be more dramatic.

3. I DO SAY Earth facing coronal holes which SLAT7 has labelled as quake active should lead to quakes - call them QCHs. However note
a) there are many (usually smaller) CH which are not important.
b) Different CH have different magnetic (invisible) structures and when you see a pair only one of them might be the key driver.
c) There are other drivers of quakes apart from CH but for the non CH effects it is also, probably but not exclusively, the case that they are most effective when Earth-facing.
d) The CMEs associated with CH and active regions may not all be very important for quakes; certainly it seems the VERY FAST ejections - rather than the main material hits in mass terms which come later - are most important.
Posted by theGingerZilla (Twitter) on Apr 19th 2012, 3:48 PM EDT
Co2sceptic & Piers,

Many thanks for your explanations. I could never quite understand how it worked - especially the CME's - but that makes sense regarding hemispheres and speeds. It will make following events much more interesting.

At the end of the month it would be worth adding what the probability of being chance is (pre-empting the 'random' accusations). Speaking of which would it be worth adding a random prediction as a placebo?

Comment edited by theGingerZilla (Twitter) on Thursday April 19, 2012 at 3:50 PM EDT
Posted by Piers Corbyn (Twitter) on Apr 21st 2012, 1:03 AM EDT
AND LATEST
M6.6 Quake 21st 01:17 Papua
CONFIRMS WA warning 21-24th of M6.5+ Sth Hem Pacific ring.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php

LOL at Churlish greens!


Note There is a seriously libelous piece** dishonestly attacking these trial forecasts elsewhere on the web and I have copied it down before it gets removed for legal reasons.
** http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/04/the-fraudulent-business-of-earthquake-and-eruption-prediction/
(more on all this from others later I expect inc links etc)

The attacks:

(i) FAIL to point out that our forecasts also explicitly say that we also expect on average results within a day either side (at shorter odds)

(ii) FAIL - and this is really dishonest from a so-called expert - to point out that big quakes occur in bunches so his probability of getting at least one event in a day or short period is LOWER than he claims.

(iii) FAIL to admit the big quakes concerned were in the right hemisphere - near the equator yes but on the North side as we said was more likely. He pretends they were on the wrong side - very dishonest. He is probably hoping to avoid the question which considerably cuts the odds of success by chance.

(iv) FAIL to assess more than one (of our forecast) events. Assessment by ONE event which has been cherry-picked to be (almost) wrong is pathetic.

(v) FAIL to assess the proper JOINT probabilities of these events AND Earth-facing Coronal holes or active regions AND being in one hemisphere AND etc.
Note the success of earth-facing CH has been high but sometimes we get active regions instead (like now) which we also generally warn of. This is still a learning activity btw!

(vi) FAIL to report on actual results over a period of time - which do show skill.

One wonders how this arrogant Green churl mentioned will deal with this 'hit' today 21st which is good being in the Southern hemisphere where there are on average reportedly less quakes. Will he carry a regular unbiased report of these trials OR better still have bets with us using independent assessors??

Comment edited by Piers Corbyn (Twitter) on Saturday April 21, 2012 at 1:28 AM EDT
Posted by Piers Corbyn (Twitter) on Apr 22nd 2012, 10:36 PM EDT
I have made two comments on the site of Libel mentioned above but since the site is moderated I am not sure what is happening. One seems to have appeared instantly but the other is 'awaiting moderation', bizarre.

1. In reply to Dean Morrison who claimed
"Corbyn made a prediction that there would be 'Very Major Earthquakes' in Britain and Ireland this February".

My comment:

The above claim by Dean Morrison is a LIE. We never made such claims about 'very Major' or indeed ANY earthquakes in Britain and Ireland for then or ever, they are about world risk of major quakes - just bother to read the actual trial forecasts it is clear to even a complete fool they are not about low risk regions.

So WITHDRAW THIS MALEVOLENT LIE - THIS LIBELOUS CLAIM - FORTHWITH or the matter will be taken further.

As to the Moon we well understand the nature of the moon, sir, but you make very foolish remarks. You don't need to be magnetized to have an affect on the wind blowing at you do you? Tell me does the wind blow THROUGH your car at 70mph when you drive at 70mph? Is there no wake behind your? Come on wise up. Just stop lie-ing

The problem you have is that our Solar Lunar Action Technique actually works and has proven significant skill for long range weather forecasting, see (including peer-reviewed publications)

http://www.weatheraction.com/pages/pv.asp?p=wact45

and as is well known to anyone who honestly bothers to look at facts predicted - for example
- the coldest December in England in 100years for Dec 2010 and
- the formation and track of what became hurricane Irene (from 12 weeks ahead).

To see these and many other example have a look at our News archives:
http://www.weatheraction.com/pages/pv.asp?p=wact41

Skill is also clearly seen in our trail Earthquake forecasts as independent observers have commented - see other posting re Erik Klemetti's original libelous malevolent claims.

Morrison also claims I 'ran way' when he asked me other questions. Actually I did answer his questions. I then either ignored or didn't see ongoing ignorant nonsense he may have put forward.

Of course whether or not what is happening and why our technique works is known or understood by Morrison or Klemetti or anyone is totally irrelevant. We know it works and we do not understand all that is going on. We know eggs can turn into chickens I don't know how but because of the lack of understanding of the matter I don't deny that eggs do turn into chickens (often).

2. A Post To EK, the original author:

Erik Klemetti,
This is a seriously libelous piece dishonestly attacking our trial forecasts and you are REQUIRED to withdraw all your gratuitously damaging claims directed against me and/or WeatherAction in the above piece and ensuing comment


As we have posted on Climate Realists, the attacks above: (He refers to you, EK)

(i) FAIL to point out that our forecasts also explicitly say that we also expect on average results within a day either side (at shorter odds)

(ii) FAIL - and this is really dishonest from a so-called expert - to point out that big quakes occur in bunches so his probability of getting at least one event in a day or short period is LOWER than he claims.

(iii) FAIL to admit the big quakes concerned were in the right hemisphere - near the equator yes but on the North side as we said was more likely. He pretends they were on the wrong side - very dishonest. He is probably hoping to avoid the question which considerably cuts the odds of success by chance.

(iv) FAIL to assess more than one (of our forecast) events. Assessment by ONE event which has been cherry-picked to be (almost) wrong is pathetic.

(v) FAIL to assess the proper JOINT probabilities of these events AND Earth-facing Coronal holes or active regions AND being in one hemisphere AND etc.
Note the success of earth-facing CH has been high but sometimes we get active regions instead (like now) which we also generally warn of. This is still a learning activity btw!

(vi) FAIL to report on actual results over a period of time - which do show skill.

One wonders how this arrogant Green churl mentioned will deal with this 'hit' today (21st April) which is good being in the Southern hemisphere where there are on average reportedly less quakes. Will he carry a regular unbiased report of these trials OR better still have bets with us using independent assessors??

SO CONTINUING, EK WILL YOU HAVE BETS WITH US on the trial forecasts in our R(Q)4 and R(Q)5 trial windows under three headings (i) the narrow windows (ii) those plus half a day each side (iii) those plus one day each side?
These boundaries were discussed a month or so ago on CR site.
These trials have no necessary bearing on what may or may not happen outside these trial windows and no extension to other periods with half assumed theories has any validity. We do NOT claim to predict all extreme quakes but are running trials for a certain set of ideas which do not need to be known to be tested.
I say this because the likes of you and your sidekicks will I daresay produce their own 'forecasts' based on invalid suppositions about what we say in order to attack our testable work.

Thank you, Piers Corbyn
Posted by Piers Corbyn (Twitter) on Apr 24th 2012, 12:26 AM EDT
I have again Challenged Prof EK et al to a program of quake bets:
Comment 6 on (The Fraudulent ...)

http://climaterealists.com/9482

PS I find it bizarre that EK's site moans that WeatherAction asks people to pay for the quake forecasts when we tax-payers (USA+UK) are largely paying for the Arrogant Community of Inadequate Science (ACIS) which he perceives as being threatened by our trials (yes that's all they are) at forecasting Quakes and Volcanoes (from a shoe box near London Bridge).
Nevertheless just for information the numbers who actually pay for quake (Extreme events Rest Of World) forecasts is small. They are given at no extra charge with the B+I 45day and Euro maps forecasts and I think people who do pay for them do it to support the work. I thank them and all who also subscribe* to our other forecasts, without whom we would not be having this conversation.
*via
http://www.weatheraction.com/wactmember5.asp

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