Posted by Tom Richards (Twitter) on Jun 29th 2012, 3:19 PM EDT
More, shall we say interesting, verification from Piers.
He has predicted floods for the bulk of the country and claims success because one regional has suffered. But,lets take a closer look.
His forecast for southern Britain was cloudy, cold and (note well) especially wet along the south coast. In fact, the south and south coast had three days of sunshine, increasing warmth (bordering on hot on Thursday) and dry weather. This is the complete opposite to Piers forecast.
In fact, it was this warmth that triggered the storms across northern England.
If the Met Office was as generous with its verification it would never be wrong. Lets say there will be rain in Hamsphire tomorrow and instead it rains in Durham. I am correct given Pier's margins.
He also keeps on about standard meteorlogy underestimating rainfall amounts but he never forecasts rainfall totals himself. He just uses meaningless waffle like deluges or double the amount of standard meteorology. Lets see some figures if it is that easy.
Posted by Co2sceptic (forum) on Jun 29th 2012, 4:53 PM EDT
It is all down to "cause" and "effect". This high brow stuff as to how weather works will be turned on its head and the MO will be help to account for what they have supported in the name of "science". It's you guys that are the single bird in the nest, and what a nasty nest it is.
Posted by theGingerZilla (Twitter) on Jun 29th 2012, 7:01 PM EDT
One word to the trolling comments (1+2) 'zzzzzzzzzzzzz'
CO2Sceptic I don't know why you bother replying to these time wasters. They have nothing to add and are contrarian for the sake of it (I'll stop now as my comments whilst of humorous intent would breach the site rules).
Comment edited by theGingerZilla (Twitter) on Friday June 29, 2012 at 7:02 PM EDT
Posted by Piers Corbyn (Twitter) on Jun 30th 2012, 6:13 PM EDT
Well said GingerZ. I think these ETs need to go to Room 101b (boot camp).
A quick glance at the map confirms the WIDESPREAD nature of the EXTREME storm events in England, Wales and Ireland (on that day alone - and there are more days in the period); and that they would not be in Scotland which we said 6 weeks ago would be probably excluded. How ET claims this is only "one region(al)" beggars belief. Do they do Geography in 101b?
THESE EXTREME EVENTS are part of a triple whammy of success confirmed by events in this weather and quake period (shifted half a day early which is a small fraction of the 6 weeks ago the forecast was made):-
- These storms in Brit+Ireland 28th afternoon,
- Storms in North USA on 29th-30th gmt, and
- an M6.3 quake in China on 29th gmt
1. This WeatherAction LONG RANGE forecast was produced 6 weeks ahead. Compare what happened with all the other possibilities (by eg looking at last 10 years of last 3 days in June to get a sample of all possibilities) and you see the skill which beat the bookies for years. The Met Office 6 weeks ago could not improve on WeatherAction.
2. On the other hand Our WeatherAction Red warning forecasts can advise on and improve standard SHORT RANGE and reduce TV Met0 underestimates of extremes. This being an example. Our forecast subscribers regularly apply our long range warnings of standard Met errors.
At the level of "There will be some weather" which is often a fair average of what they say over the preceding week of forecasts for one particular day The Met O are indeed always right. BUT WHAT USE IS THAT? BEING USEFUL IS WHAT IS NEEDED.
Thanks, Piers
Comment edited by Piers Corbyn (Twitter) on Saturday June 30, 2012 at 6:15 PM EDT
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He has predicted floods for the bulk of the country and claims success because one regional has suffered. But,lets take a closer look.
His forecast for southern Britain was cloudy, cold and (note well) especially wet along the south coast. In fact, the south and south coast had three days of sunshine, increasing warmth (bordering on hot on Thursday) and dry weather. This is the complete opposite to Piers forecast.
In fact, it was this warmth that triggered the storms across northern England.
If the Met Office was as generous with its verification it would never be wrong. Lets say there will be rain in Hamsphire tomorrow and instead it rains in Durham. I am correct given Pier's margins.
He also keeps on about standard meteorlogy underestimating rainfall amounts but he never forecasts rainfall totals himself. He just uses meaningless waffle like deluges or double the amount of standard meteorology. Lets see some figures if it is that easy.